The U.S. music industry has initiated a new round of lawsuits against 532 people for file sharing at 21 different universities. Last Tuesday the RIAA submitted the next round, on behalf of record companies. Of the 532 people accused of illegal file sharing, 89 were using networks at universities, including New York University, Stanford, Georgetown and Vanderbuilt. This brings the new tally to nearly 2,000 lawsuits.. Might be a good time to block institutions, to include the above universities...
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i belive that the most of them are in the edu list so add the filter if your paranoid
Plus I am running a massive EDU Domain list in smartwhois, will take over 12 hours as theres over 11,000 sources in there ..... has all the Unis in the states I think .... I shall release it via a admin when its complete.
just so peeps know blocking edu ranges won't help you when it comes to the riaa- the riaa uses webcrawler and it's designed to find anyone sharing - they then contact the school or serve them (depending upon their relationship!) to reveal the name of the student
here's one of the articles i'm referring to
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http://p2pnet.net/story/1059
p2pnet.net News:- Yesterday, Big Music turned the RIAA, its US enforcement unit, loose on a further 532 unidentified men, women and children it accuses of file sharing and copyright infringement.
Included in the line up are 82 students in Arizona, California, Colorado, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Washington, DC, and Wisconsin.
Now the the University of Michigan is waiting for RIAA John/Jane Doe subpoenas and assistant general counsel Jack Bernard is quoted in The Michigan Daily here as saying he's expecting them within the week.
But this isn't the school's first exposure to the RIAA.
"U-M has received notice that RIAA wants the names of nine people linked to computers on campus where music allegedly has been illegally uploaded to the Internet via file-sharing programs," says a January 27 story in Record, the university's ezine here.
"At least seven of the individuals are students in the residence halls, says James Hilton, associate provost for academic, information and instructional technology affairs."
It's been a while since the RIAA singled out US schools. But that may have been because it's been concentrating on nailing down loose ends at Penn State and the U of R where the record label-supplied Napster II download app, owned by Roxio, is now firmly established.
The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) plugged Napster II into both institutions. Students who use it to download recording industry 'product' avoid ending up in the courts. The fact they're dragged there by the labels in the first place doesn't seem to trouble anyone.
As RIAA Spokesman Jonathan Lamy phrases it, and as quoted in the Michigan Daily story, "The goal is simply to send a message of deterrence, that this activity is illegal, that it can have consequences (and) that if digital music is what you want, turn to the great legal alternatives that are available."
Unless Michigan follows the Penn Stat and the R of U examples, the current "great legal alternatives" are the steadily mushrooming corporate online music sites which sell tired Big Music 'product' from paltry catalogues.
Lamy is also quoted as saying, "We want to be fair and reasonable.
"The intent here is not to make money, nor is the intent to win a lawsuit."
Right.
However, unlike Penn and the U of R, Michigan doesn't appear to have senior staff positioned on the entertainment industry's Joint Committee of the Higher Education and Entertainment, which it uses to introduce on-campus sales, among other things.
The Michigan Daily goes on, "If the subpoenas are 'substantively and procedurally valid,' the University will follow the law and release the names of the individuals, Bernard said. Subpoenas compel their recipients to release important information for an intended trial. Since RIAA has presumably filed suit against these users, that information is the student's name. 'These are very difficult subpoenas to refuse,' Bernard said."
It says the university always disputes subpoenas and unless they're valid, won't release information.
"The sued students could either go to court or likely settle out of court," it points out. "Settlements can vary in size, especially since legal challenges have increased RIAA's costs.
"But RIAA spokesman Jonathan Lamy said the average settlement is $3,000. This amount is also contingent upon how many files a student shared.
"Recently, the federal court ruled that RIAA had to file its suits individually. It had previously filed collective suits. Whether or not RIAA followed this procedure will affect whether the University will release the students? names."
Meet the RIAA's custom IP scanner
"File-sharing programs like Kazaa have an option to disable the uploading of files. But many students, administration officials say, are not aware of this option," the Michigan Daily states.
Does that mean downloading is OK with administration officials?
Be that as it may, the "RIAA uses a simple technology called webcrawler to scan IP addresses for copyrighted material, but if a student is not sharing or uploading files, then RIAA cannot view the material on a person's computer," says the report.
And "RIAA uses Webcrawling software that spreads out across the Internet to identify computers where inappropriate file sharing is occurring," the earlier Recorder report mentioned above states.
Webcrawler is actually one of the Net's oldest metasearch engines.
The story continues, "Sharing files online can be legal as long as the material is not copyrighted, but most files are copyrighted."
Really?
Anyway, "Administration officials said they will strive to protect the rights of its students, but it must do what is legal," the reports says, adding, 'We will of course comply with the law,' Associate Provost James Hilton said."
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http://p2pnet.net/story/1059
p2pnet.net News:- Yesterday, Big Music turned the RIAA, its US enforcement unit, loose on a further 532 unidentified men, women and children it accuses of file sharing and copyright infringement.
Included in the line up are 82 students in Arizona, California, Colorado, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Washington, DC, and Wisconsin.
Now the the University of Michigan is waiting for RIAA John/Jane Doe subpoenas and assistant general counsel Jack Bernard is quoted in The Michigan Daily here as saying he's expecting them within the week.
But this isn't the school's first exposure to the RIAA.
"U-M has received notice that RIAA wants the names of nine people linked to computers on campus where music allegedly has been illegally uploaded to the Internet via file-sharing programs," says a January 27 story in Record, the university's ezine here.
"At least seven of the individuals are students in the residence halls, says James Hilton, associate provost for academic, information and instructional technology affairs."
It's been a while since the RIAA singled out US schools. But that may have been because it's been concentrating on nailing down loose ends at Penn State and the U of R where the record label-supplied Napster II download app, owned by Roxio, is now firmly established.
The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) plugged Napster II into both institutions. Students who use it to download recording industry 'product' avoid ending up in the courts. The fact they're dragged there by the labels in the first place doesn't seem to trouble anyone.
As RIAA Spokesman Jonathan Lamy phrases it, and as quoted in the Michigan Daily story, "The goal is simply to send a message of deterrence, that this activity is illegal, that it can have consequences (and) that if digital music is what you want, turn to the great legal alternatives that are available."
Unless Michigan follows the Penn Stat and the R of U examples, the current "great legal alternatives" are the steadily mushrooming corporate online music sites which sell tired Big Music 'product' from paltry catalogues.
Lamy is also quoted as saying, "We want to be fair and reasonable.
"The intent here is not to make money, nor is the intent to win a lawsuit."
Right.
However, unlike Penn and the U of R, Michigan doesn't appear to have senior staff positioned on the entertainment industry's Joint Committee of the Higher Education and Entertainment, which it uses to introduce on-campus sales, among other things.
The Michigan Daily goes on, "If the subpoenas are 'substantively and procedurally valid,' the University will follow the law and release the names of the individuals, Bernard said. Subpoenas compel their recipients to release important information for an intended trial. Since RIAA has presumably filed suit against these users, that information is the student's name. 'These are very difficult subpoenas to refuse,' Bernard said."
It says the university always disputes subpoenas and unless they're valid, won't release information.
"The sued students could either go to court or likely settle out of court," it points out. "Settlements can vary in size, especially since legal challenges have increased RIAA's costs.
"But RIAA spokesman Jonathan Lamy said the average settlement is $3,000. This amount is also contingent upon how many files a student shared.
"Recently, the federal court ruled that RIAA had to file its suits individually. It had previously filed collective suits. Whether or not RIAA followed this procedure will affect whether the University will release the students? names."
Meet the RIAA's custom IP scanner
"File-sharing programs like Kazaa have an option to disable the uploading of files. But many students, administration officials say, are not aware of this option," the Michigan Daily states.
Does that mean downloading is OK with administration officials?
Be that as it may, the "RIAA uses a simple technology called webcrawler to scan IP addresses for copyrighted material, but if a student is not sharing or uploading files, then RIAA cannot view the material on a person's computer," says the report.
And "RIAA uses Webcrawling software that spreads out across the Internet to identify computers where inappropriate file sharing is occurring," the earlier Recorder report mentioned above states.
Webcrawler is actually one of the Net's oldest metasearch engines.
The story continues, "Sharing files online can be legal as long as the material is not copyrighted, but most files are copyrighted."
Really?
Anyway, "Administration officials said they will strive to protect the rights of its students, but it must do what is legal," the reports says, adding, 'We will of course comply with the law,' Associate Provost James Hilton said."
Anyone know what this webcrawling technology is - sounds illegal to me.The RIAA should be jailed
Yes but I block Unis for completly different reasons .... the RIAA cant touch me as I live in the UK, by UK law they cant do anything, it would go to the BPI....and even than the case in ref# to Unis is irrelavant for me as I dont share from a Uni'.
I block Unis as they leech alot, and have tons of shit like trojans on them ..... plus lots of hidden gov' groups use the uni networks, belive that or not.
Yes they do have fast connections and some good stuff, but I aint risking it .... I know too much for them to enter and share with me, I get them al and block them all.
I block Unis as they leech alot, and have tons of shit like trojans on them ..... plus lots of hidden gov' groups use the uni networks, belive that or not.
Yes they do have fast connections and some good stuff, but I aint risking it .... I know too much for them to enter and share with me, I get them al and block them all.
webcrawler? hmmmmm...i wonder if they meant metacrawler? lol. weird...
i know you're extremely paranoid redzulu no worries!
my comments were for those who think that blocking edus will make them safe from riaa lawsuits- even though the odds are ridiculous of being sued anyways
da is thinking of a bot/crawler list or adding them to an existing list and it's a good time for that- given it sounds like the riaa webcrawler is a fairly simple crawler/spider that will end up in logs
my comments were for those who think that blocking edus will make them safe from riaa lawsuits- even though the odds are ridiculous of being sued anyways
da is thinking of a bot/crawler list or adding them to an existing list and it's a good time for that- given it sounds like the riaa webcrawler is a fairly simple crawler/spider that will end up in logs
LOL hey DDD, but moore is more paranoid than me hahahaha
no doubt there lol- i'm not sure he even uses p2p that much!
lol. yea, me and moore prolly win teh paranoid contest 
/me counts his exclusions against his FullInternetBlock.p2p
lol.
/me counts his exclusions against his FullInternetBlock.p2p lol.
I'm not afraid of the RIAA suing me.
I've deleted my shared folder, all of my shared folder's extensions.
I've also set all of my uploads slots to 0.
I've also set my upload capacity to 0.00KBs and don't allow partical sharing.
Also I use a 37,000 block range list for my PeerGuardian (everyone from Adobe to Wide Open West Holdings)
YES, I can still download songs.
I can't share, can't upload, and if anybody wanted to, they couldn't connect to me in the first place.
My risk is so low I'd have win the lottery first, before something happens to me.
I've deleted my shared folder, all of my shared folder's extensions.
I've also set all of my uploads slots to 0.
I've also set my upload capacity to 0.00KBs and don't allow partical sharing.
Also I use a 37,000 block range list for my PeerGuardian (everyone from Adobe to Wide Open West Holdings)
YES, I can still download songs.
I can't share, can't upload, and if anybody wanted to, they couldn't connect to me in the first place.
My risk is so low I'd have win the lottery first, before something happens to me.
yea, but you're not sharing. the thing is, the riaa, they are catching/sueing people by people downloading from THEM. They aren't going hunting for downloads, then sueing the people they download from I dont think. that would be too much work when they can load a bunch of fake decoy files up into Kazaa Shared directory and make them look legit, people surf in to DL them, they capture the connection from Netstat, etc.
SO no, you're not that secure, I think they (RIAA/MPAA, etc) are going after "downloaders" more than they are going after "SHARERS".
But that's just my take on it. I don't exist on any p2p networks.
SO no, you're not that secure, I think they (RIAA/MPAA, etc) are going after "downloaders" more than they are going after "SHARERS".
But that's just my take on it. I don't exist on any p2p networks.
I don't use Kazaa or WinMx.
I thought the whole point of this suing stuff was to catch people downloading fake files.
Also for sharing files.
I don't download fake files or share files.
I thought the whole point of this suing stuff was to catch people downloading fake files.
Also for sharing files.
I don't download fake files or share files.
ahh hehe
QUOTE (riaahater1 @ Mar 29 2004, 08:06 PM)
I don't use Kazaa or WinMx.
I thought the whole point of this suing stuff was to catch people downloading fake files.
Also for sharing files.
I don't download fake files or share files.
I thought the whole point of this suing stuff was to catch people downloading fake files.
Also for sharing files.
I don't download fake files or share files.
Seems you have an answer for everything, but not exactly supportive of P2P 'community' eh ?
Yes, GuruGuru, it may look that way.
But, I want to be able to download music without getting sued by those money loving pig faces at the RIAA.
And sharing and uploading is what the lawsuits are about, so to minimize my risk, I don't share or upload.
When the RIAA stops suing other these things, I will be then happy to share what I got.
I do share on XS.
But, I want to be able to download music without getting sued by those money loving pig faces at the RIAA.
And sharing and uploading is what the lawsuits are about, so to minimize my risk, I don't share or upload.
When the RIAA stops suing other these things, I will be then happy to share what I got.
I do share on XS.
QUOTE (riaahater1 @ Mar 30 2004, 12:54 PM)
I do share on XS.
good man. i feel this is what "sharing" is going to turn into. small places around the web where a community of close, trusted, friends get together and allow each other access to each other's machines in order to share files.
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